Doug Renselle (renselle@on-net.net)
Sun, 26 Oct 1997 06:29:19 +0100
Hi James and TLS,
james.mccabe wrote:
>
> Magnus Berg wrote:
>
> > Doug Renselle wrote:
> > > To me there are three glaring examples in 'Lila' of the social
> level
> >
> > > being aware of the intellectual level:
>
> ....
>
> > >
> > > I see these as examples of a lower level keenly aware of a higher
> > level.
> >
> > So it would seem, but it takes a human to intellectually realize the
> > danger to the society and then act on it, either alone or make the
> > society act.
>
> I think an institution can make decisions and act on them without any
> particular individual in this society fully understanding or
> controlling
> what is going on. As you yourself point out the whole is greater than
> the sum of the parts (in fact I have noticed that you seem to consider
> the social level chiefly in these very general terms).
>
> > I should "confess" though, that one reason I started my
> > reorginazation of what things belongs to what level, comes
> > from the assumption that lower levels are not aware of higher
> > levels but considers this mediation as DQ.
>
> A level resists higher levels because it is unable to distinguish it
> from lower levels. For instance, the social level resists the
> intellectual level because it is unable to distinguish freedom of
> expression from vice.
>
> James.
>
James,
This really helps! In the SOM-land context this is really close to how
I intuited a lower level being 'aware' of a higher level. Staying in
SOM-land but using MoQ jargon, I thought other TLS folk were saying that
a lower level cannot be aware of anything a higher level does. That
seemed wrong.
Assuming this conclusion is correct, we can distill this:
1) In SOM-land the social level is unaware of the 'existence' of the
intellectual level.
2) In SOM-land the social level is aware of the 'effects' of the QEs in
the intellectual level, but interprets them from the social level
context perspective.
We can generalize these two specific statements for the SOM context at
each level of the MoQ static quality architecture.
Good stuff James!
Mtty,
Doug Renselle.
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