Platt: Wilber discusses subjects and objects precisely the same way Pirsig
does, they both have developed a view that transcends SOM. And Wilber's
insistence that we consider these "things" to have a "certain conventional
reality", I think, only reflects Pirsig's message about SOM and the MOQ
being two different sets of co-ordinates. MOre than that, Wilber's terms are
different, but I can even see the static/Dynamic split in his picture. There
are more levels, levels within them and even his static patterns, which he
calls holons, are more interesting and rich. Reading Wilber after all these
Pirsig discussions has been like putting meat on the bones. Its the same
thing, only more so. I owe you, and everyone else, for helping me get to the
point where I can really appreciate a guy like Wilber. So, thanks y'all!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Platt Holden [SMTP:pholden5@EARTHLINK.NET]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 7:10 AM
> To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> Subject: Re: MD FW: Unconstructed Wilber quotes
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> Hi David:
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> Count me in as a Wilber fan. Problem is his first cut (dualism) is just
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> everybody else's--subject and object, inside and outside. In my limited
> knowledge of philosophy only Pirsig makes the first cut dynamic and static
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> Quality. That's why some of us consider the MoQ to be truly revolutionary.
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> Platt
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