E you chickened out! :-) predictable in the context of my sending you
reference material IOW somebody elses words not mine but you dont/wont read
them ... and you come up with rubbish re neocortical function etc tsk tsk
what a cop out. you should be ashamed of yourself .. but then I suppose if
you have spent so much time refining a position to then have it threatened
... well .. I suppose you have to back away dont you. Pity. If you dont like
my writing or understand it etc well then at LEAST read the references ...
none of which are sourced to me so I have not 'infected' them :-) For work
on hemisphere functions and frequency processing see the refs (or even --
shock horror! try and READ carfully, if need be many times)
http://www.eisa.net.au/~lofting/general.html as well as the refs I included
on my email. Make the effort, open your eyes, ears etc BURN Plato and all
texts and start again working from what we now know as to how we process
information, how we can live illusions/delusions etc and what can develop
from that.
To get an idea you need to 'kill' history, kill the feedback processes 'in
here', there is too much of it and it is drowning understanding (as well as
the court systems where an ever increasing amount of precedence is
paralysing court decisions etc -- need to cull some things... :-)) Note that
this implies more discernment.
This is not my 'junk' science, it is all 'good' science, perhaps you prefer
to call it junk due to the connotations of some of the work re values etc
but then you have your agenda.
Me? well I just point to patterns behind the words and that includes the
structuring of MOQ etc
I demonstrate (if you bothered to read carefully) HOW we find meaning,
create meaning and with that senses of value etc
For example the I Ching (Book of Changes) has been a strong influence on
Eastern thought, especially Chinese, Korean, Japanese. It is 'respected', it
is seen to have 'value' and be 'of quality' but the failure has been to not
(or to refuse) to go behind it and see how it could be created.
>From CURRENT neurological and psychological research we can start to
identify the source of these sorts of belief systems, how these metaphors
are interpreted literally.
BUT to appreciate it you need to do some background reading -- I have given
you refs and you seem to reject them or refuse to read them -- that to me
shows FEAR, a concern with change, a NEED to retain one's position
regardless of 'truths'. Very 'object' thinking, very 'us' vs 'them',
archetypal, classical perspective. Nothing wrong with it other than it can
cause problems if you try and take it beyond its place.
Philosophy without understanding how we function as a species, how we
process data and develop, is illusion, you might as well read entrails...
TAKE THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING INBETWEEN YOUR EARS. READ THE
REFS at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond/brefs.html
Get into the summary material (e.g. LEFT BRAIN, RIGHT BRAIN now in its 5th
edition). Look at Scott-Kelso's "DYNAMIC PATTERNS" dealing with
complexity/chaos 'in here'. Go through the Spencer-Brown and Kaufmann/Varela
refs, Go to Jack Pedigrew's site re hemisphere switching -- FIND THINGS OUT
rather than giving me crap like "Anyway, I thought all this left/right
business went out of fashion years ago."
This sort of remark to me shows an amazing degree of ignorance from a person
who seems to try and present themselves as 'refined' and 'of quality' --
GROW UP! you have a good mind, dont waste away with it.
MAKE THE TIME. FORGET READING PLATO FOR THE Nth TIME -- HE LACKS PRECISION
and as such can CLOUD thinking. Move up 2000 years with a clear mind; the
ancients did good jobs with the tools they had but to maintain them, to
present them as if 'superior' to now shows total ignorance; it shows a sort
of NEED to retain identity through understanding antiques.
If you burn them then over time the same qualitative elements will
re-emerge, the sense of quality is not lost other than that reflected in the
particular but that particular only retains its quality as long as it is
remembered .. and then that memory gets passed on the other generations and
it all becomes 'traditional', we lose sight of the original intent, the
original determination of quality.
As you can see I think your note was full of 'rubbish' (as you seemed to
find mine) except that mine pointed to REAL EVENTS happening NOW and they
are USEFUL in understanding, in helping us to move on.
Antiques are useful in establishing a sense of quality, they help us with
learning discernment but there is NO WAY you can fully appreciate what is
going on 'in here' without understanding the neurosciences work and that
included observing the expressions we use to describe object/relationships
interactions (aka the WHAT/WHERE dichotomy -- you are not familiar with it?
READ THE REFS -- FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF).
Chris.
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