Squonk!
i really agree with you about jazz, its dynamic and free in many ways. I
played myself in a jazzband and it were really extacying after the sessions,
but unfortunately our piano player seemed to be satisfied with the pattern
that took place after a while and didnt want to move on, so thats why it
didnt held. I have just started go to school again, after dropping out some
years ago, and it has started a little conflict in me, cause a part of me
really wants to do this and start on something new again, and a part of me
just wants to go back to sitting on the balcony and smoke and read all day
long, but i guess it takes a while to adjust. I love those nights when you
go out with a friend and maybe you have been listening to bebop, had
screaming discussions while drinking booze and your so completely away from
your usual self and you feel that tonight can anything happen. I read 'on
the road' a couple of years ago when i dropped off school and I were so
turned on by the idea,
compared with school and everything, so i took off to Ireland with a friend
just to make something happen, and i remember when we got off the train a
couple of miles south of Dublin and we were so turned on, laughed manic,
screaming and the rain was just poured over us and we stood there in
t-shirts, cold and shivering but it was ok cause something new was
happening. yes, its a good question, to what extent is people free? some
people consider themselfes free when they graduate and move to their own
apartment, some people consider themself free when they get out of an
relationship, and thats dynamic when you feel you're getting choked in a
static pattern and whants to move on, but that liberation of yourself cannot
stop. it must always proceed, burn burn burn. we live on different planets
with different frames of what is acceptable and what is not. and that is ok.
everybody once in a while get tired of themselfes for not getting satisfied
and relaxed with everything. The futurists are a little scary in some
issues, cause the say that "to make something new, you have to crash the
past, destroy old monuments and art" and i guess it dynamic in some ways but
also very destructive, cause what are you but not a product of everything
behind us?
To Billy Dean, yes, the hanging out with dogs thing, i guess its the same
with people, some days i like to hang out with people who doesnt demand so
much and who is more unconditional in many ways, and other days i like to be
with people who are more abstract in their ideas and stimulates me in
another way. Cause to much of intellectual crap chokes you, and thats the
thing with the middleclass, they are so damn correct and professional and
articulated that you start to wonder if this is a human being. but alot of
workingclass people gets to simpleminded after a while, and you start to
wonder if they gotten anywhere since stone-age, and by this time i've have
made myself enemy with a lot of people :). im not saying that this is a
pattern thats absolute, im only generalizing static people in different
classes. theres a lot of different qualities, and sometimes you forget that
you also are a human who have biological values and vice versa the same way
around. there have to be just not sex, drugs and rock n roll, more like sex,
drugs & philosophy :)
Have a nice day everybody!
>From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>Subject: Re: MD some reflections
>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:49:10 EDT
>
>Hi Hugo!
>
>You write with passion, and that feels good to me.
>
>Contrarians do not like static patterns.
>They only have to get the slightest whiff of, 'Belonging' or agreeing with
>others to make them whirl off in the opposite direction. (And very often
>with
>great show?)
>
>The Mavericks of this world are the dynamic ones who move things and create
>change.
>
>Pirsig experienced low quality and had to discover why this was so.
>I feel that was as his motivation for doing the things he did; it is the
>motivation for us all?
>When he began to see where the problem was, Pirsig experienced high
>quality;
>and he knew he was onto something.
>Those who appear static in the sense you describe in your posting are in
>the
>grip of various patterns as you point out.
>I like the moral implications of this; to what extent are people free; what
>is best for people?
>I guess the answer is: People are free when they are happy?
>If making a large family and doting on your children makes you happy, (As
>was
>the case with my mother for example) then you are free.
>Some of us are free only when we drop most if not all of our static aspect.
>I feel Indian culture has known this for millennia.
>
>The closer one moves towards DQ, the more free one becomes.
>Jazz musicians, for example, play right on the edge of DQ.
>Contrarians experience, 'That which is static' as very poor quality and do
>all they feel they can to avoid stasis by moving towards DQ.
>I suppose this makes contrarians jazzers? ;)
>
>All the best Hugo!
>
>Squonk. :-)
>
>
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