Re: MD An Attack on Freedom

From: Mark Lucas (mark@lucas-digital.com)
Date: Thu Sep 13 2001 - 20:15:30 BST


Greetings all,

I've been a lurking member of the list since re-reading LILA last month.

Ten years away from the writings and my cultural immune system had all but
flushed Pirsig's notions from me. I was most assuredly back in the lowlands.

With my third reading just two weeks behind me I can once again feel the
giddiness of someone viewing the landscape from the highground....

When I first read LILA it was also September, the Gulf War had just ended.
Many of the points of discussion that are currently in play were the same
points that invited analysis using MoQ.

My own thoughts are that we are at the beginning of a world war. A war not
against an enemy nation, but against hate itself. The arena on which this
war is fought is not one which America has ever conceived, at least not the
organs of state.

The terrible axiom shift that we all suffered on Tuesday was clearly nothing
less than the conflict between the most repressive force of static values
and the greatest source of dynamic values.

The result of this event may be a global fall in intellectual values as
social levels of quality thicken and take hold to provide armour for the
intellectual patterns. Such a change will likely suffocate our sources of
dynamic quality (the essence of freedom, not freedom itself) for maybe a
generation.

We have to hope that the event on Tuesday nudges us towards a set of static
and dynamic values which allow both the conflicting orders of evolution to
play out, without the very great risk of mutual degeneracy or destruction
that saw the 'victorian' era swept away.

Mark

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M a r k L u c a s

l u c a s - d i g i t a l . c o m

----- Original Message ----- From: "Horse" <horse@darkstar.uk.net> To: <moq_discuss@moq.org> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:59 AM Subject: MD An Attack on Freedom

> Greetings to All > > I hope all members of this and the MF discussion group are safe and well and that > their families and loved ones are also safe and well after the recent outrageous > events and ensuing carnage. My most fervent hope now is that the response to > these events will not be more of the same as this would be as great a tragedy - > possibly greater. > <SNIP> > To re-iterate Platt's quote of Pirsig; > > From LILA, Chaper 24: "Freedom of speech; freedom of assembly, of > travel; trial by jury; habeas corpus; government by consent--these > 'human rights' are all intellect vs. society issues. According to the > Metaphysics of Quality these 'human rights' have not just a sentimental > basis, but a rational metaphysical basis. They are essential to the > evolution of a higher level of life from a lower level of life. They are for > real." > > Let's hope the lower lifeforms don't try and remove these essential requirements. > > > Horse > > > MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org > Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ > MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net > > To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at: > http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html > >

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