Hi Bodvar, Jae and all,
This is a continuation of a discussion that grew out of the "Why do they
hate us/Patronising attitudes" thread.
I've renamed it for obvious reasons.
JONATHAN (28/10/2001)
> Either as monotheism of
> polytheism, the abstraction of god(s) makes the spiritual world
> something essentially subjective, to be largely ignored by scientists
> who explore the spiritless physical world. That is pretty much where
> Eurasian man has been for the last few thousand years (I don't know
> much about the others).
BODVAR (31/10/2001)
>Eurasian man. Exactly, not merely European or Western, but
>Eurasian, just what I try to convince Sam of.
Sam has been going over the religious/philosophical divisions of very
recent history. As you note, by talking about EURASIAN man, we are
talking not only about Judaism, Christianity and Islam, but about
Hinduism too. This is something that Jae might want to think about it.
JAE (Logical conclusions thread, 6/11/01):
>Now as for Hinduism - that's a cool religoun! Not quite my style, but
>I'd much rather chill-out with a bunch of Hindus than a bunch of
Christians.
That ancient rift between the spiritual and the physical worlds is what
divides what we call Eastern and Western thought.
Neither side has the complete picture. In the West, the physical world
has come to dominate our view of reality. The spiritual world is
regarded as suspect or even dismissed completely as mumbo jumbo.
In the East (Hinduism), the opposite happened. It is the physical world
that is regarded as a magical illusion (MAYA).
BODVAR (to Jonathan)
>How did you and I ever
>become such antagonists? I can't find one single objection to raise.
Maybe finally, we are at the heart of Pirsig's original problem that
motivated him to write ZAMM.
Remember, the first philosophical discussions in the book start about
this very issue, whether or not ghosts and spirits are real.
Bodvar, I'm glad we're of one mind on this.
Jonathan
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