Re: MD Has Pirsig created a new disguise for SOM ?

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Wed Dec 12 2001 - 20:17:51 GMT


Hi Denis, Bo, All:

I don't mean to butt in here but I can't help but get out the ax I've been
grinding since the beginning that a fifth level, if there is one, has got to
have something to do with esthetics. The following from Denis where
he makes a judgment about an intellectual pattern from an undefined
"intellectual esthetic sense" seems to me to be solid evidence of the
existence of such a higher level. I don't think one can very well sustain
an argument that our esthetic sense is entirely a matter of intellectual
or social conditioning or latched to the biological or inorganic levels. To
borrow a Wilberism, our sense of beauty seems to "transcend but
include" the other levels. But, I could be wrong.

Platt

Denis writes:

> This "vision-logic" is a higher stage of development of an individual's
> intellect, just as a planetary system is a higher stage of development of a
> stellar cloud of gas. But the patterns are, IMHO, still respectively
> intellectual and inorganic. Of course, this is a matter of intellectual
> esthetic sense. I find more beauty in putting vision-logic in the
> intellectual level, but I perfectly agree that it's not the only, and not
> necessarily the best possible model.

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