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Rick,
FYI the fireman topic was on politically incorrect (monday i think)
The arguments seemed pretty much the same as what I briefly glanced in the
archives.
-- historical accuracy is more imporant than political correctness
-- VS
inspiration from the photo not a replica of the photo
I am finding it hard to go from this topic to your question because it
involves newspapers in which we have "fact" checkers and is more related to
the photo than the statue. Everybody agrees they want their photos and facts
in newspapers have historical accuracy. If a statue is suppossed to
represent the photo then it should be historically accurate but if it is
supposed to represent the WTC event and are only using the photo for
inspiration to capture the event that is a different story- the statue should
represent the firefighters at that event. As discussed on the show a
"politically correct" statue would be adding women, asians, and as Bill Maher
a gay fireman tickling a hose.
So I think people are upset because the statue is changed from the photo just
to be politically correct but it really depends whether the statue is supposed
to represent the photo or the WTC event. If it is the WTC then putting
whatever races were there is not really taking away from historical
accuracy...unless you want to go into having a statistically correct statue.
To answer your question about which newspaper has more intellectual quality I
am really still trying to fully understand Wim's assertion that meaning is not
in the story or reader but in the relationship because I think it applies.
If the newspaper is in isolation then paper #2
If we are talking about reading the newspaper #1 = #2 because recognizing the
"nonsense" of #1 is as much intellectual quality as recognizing the "sense" in
#2.
The jury is out,
Erin
> Now... Paper (1) has printed a story that is 100% accurate, but in which
>Armstrong's message is nonsense statement. Paper (2) has printed a story
>that is historically inaccurate, but in which Armstrong's message makes
>sense. Paper (3) has balanced things out by printing the quote as Armstrong
>said it (without the 'a'), but pointing out that Armstrong had goofed and
>tfixing it for him by also printing a corrected version.
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> I don't think I would be out of line in saying that we'd all agree that
>paper (3) printed the story of the highest Intellectual Quality. Their story
>was 'historically accurate' and allowed the 'Intellectual content' of
>Armstong's intended message to get through by pointing out his error. This
>version is Roger's 'win/win' ideal.
>
> But I ask ya'll now: Of papers (1) and (2) respectively, which story do
>you think had more Intellectual Quality?
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>rick
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