Re: MD History

From: Valence (valence10@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Jan 27 2002 - 04:05:44 GMT


Hey again Keith,
First off, Erin is right in pointing out that those activities you named all
require memory... "Static Quality...emerges in the wake of Dynamic
Quality... It always contains a component of memory (LILA p133).

KEITH:
does DQ being pre-intellectual mean that all our experience is
post-intellectual?

RICK:
Yes, it does.
Remember Keith, 'you' as an entity (the 'our' in 'our experience') is a
post-intellectual deduction to begin with. Pre-intellectually, there is no
'you', there is only Quality, and as the man says....

PIRSIG:
"Quality... is the event at which the subject becomes aware of the object.
And because without objects there can be no subject - because the objects
create the subject's awareness of himself... ...Quality is not just the
result of a collision between subject and object. The very existence of
subject and object themselves is deduced from the Quality event (ZMM p215)."

RICK:
It is only in the post-Intellectual that there exists a 'you' that is
separate from and experiencing other 'things'. Pre-intellectually, there
would be no 'you' to have any 'undivided experience'. I know this is a
difficult perceptual shift to make, but I assure you, the MOQ (as described
by Pirsig) can't be properly understood without it.

rick

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