RE: MD History

From: enoonan (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Wed Jan 30 2002 - 04:57:26 GMT


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Bard,

I have only read each once so I am looking forward to the re-readings.
I loved how you expressed the difference!! Sometimes when I try I feel like I
am sounding apethetic but "doing nothing" can be done compassionately and is
not apethetic.

BARD"In other words, Pirsig learns and teaches us to stop searching, stop
preaching, stop thinking that we understand and to just LIVE in harmony, and
dynamically when the opportunity presents itself."

ERIN: I feel that way completely but doing nothing has been the hardest thing
to do. I feel like I keep relearning over and over again.
Just a quote i would like to share with you

if you have time to chatter, read books
if you have time to read, walk to mountain,desert, ocean
if you have time to walk, sing songs, and dance
if you have time to dance, sit quietly you Happy Lucky Idiot

(from Learning to Fall)

You know what I just realized from reading your post --the difference between
riding out west and sailing south. In sailing you get more of the essence of
not doing anything...I can picture Pirsig lying there there being carried
along and letting go.

Thanks, you've helped a lot.

Erin

Dear Erin,
>
>Having read your postings regarding ZMM and Lila and how each is received, I
am reminded of my experiences with each. Having read ZMM several times during
the decades between its release and Lila's, I found each re-reading to be like
a door opening just a little further, each
>time, until I found myself on the other side of that door, seeing the world
with a much different perspective. There was a clarity and understanding that
I perceived as I thirsted for further reinforcement of what I perceived was
true. Then I read Lila. At first, it seemed a
>continuation of ZMM. But about two thirds of the way through the book, the
entire world on the other side of that door exploded into a million new
directions (not unlike Pirsig's lucid description in ZMM when he describes how
some answers, the best ones, open up so many new questions
>that are more important than the first, and lead us in new unpredicted
directions). Then it was apparent. The only time that we really ever know all
that there is a need to know is when we know that we know nothing. IMHO,
Pirsig is taking the reader on the journey to search for
>further meaning and understanding of the MOQ (read Tao) but realizes as
Lao-Tzu did 2500 years ago that the "Tao is nowhere to be found yet it
sustains, nourishes, and completes all that is." In other words, Pirsig learns
and teaches us to stop searching, stop preaching, stop thinking
>that we understand and to just LIVE in harmony, and dynamically when the
opportunity presents itself. Lila is less about the "laws and science" of the
MOQ and more about the qualities of compassion and stewardship. It is the new
testament of the MOQ.
>
>Why is it the smart one? Because it's the last one that he wrote and he was
smarter when he wrote it.
>
>Regards,
>The Bard

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