RE: MD Pirsig on Science

From: Lawrence DeBivort (debivort@umd5.umd.edu)
Date: Sun Feb 24 2002 - 20:17:41 GMT


> Rod: Light is emitted from an electron, as it attempts to lose energy,
> to return
> to a lower more stable state, going from a lower ( high energy) quality
> situation, to a higher( lower energy) quality situation,
>
> Light is the product of a quality situation change... and that photon of
> light always but always leaves that electron at C, what it does after this
> is not so important, yes light can slow down, yes light as viewed by
> an observer may " appear " to be moving faster than C, but this
> is not what
> I originally stated

Agreed. Unfortunately, in the popular understanding this essential
distinction seems to get lost.

>Rod: When I say time moves forward I don't mean that in any physical
> direction,
> more that it only moves in one "direction".

Sorry, I was being a bit facetious. My thought was this: Different cultures
to have, I am told, different senses of the 'directionality' of time, and I
have wondered whether this reflects or influences the general beliefs and
attitudes of people toward such things as the 'past', or the future, or
their sense of whether they are creating something new with the passage of
time, or returning to a state found in the past.

Lawry

>
> Rod
>
>
> on 2/24/02 3:34 PM, Lawrence DeBivort at debivort@umd5.umd.edu wrote:
>
> > Light can, relative to an observer, move faster than its
> constant, if its
> > source is itself moving in such a direction that it augments
> the speed of
> > the light it emits. This is one of the (correct) implications
> of Einstein's
> > hypotheses. Unfortunately, the notion of the constant became
> translated in
> > popular knowledge into an absolute maxium speed.
> >
> > And, yes, light, can be slowed down as it goes through a
> resisting medium.
> >
> > As for time: words like forward, or up, are metaphorical. My own view is
> > that, metaphorically, Time is a filter through matter is pushed and
> > modified. Aren't words grand? <smile>
> >
> > Lawry de Bivort
> >
> > ----
> > From Thracian Bard: I must agree that, to the best of my
> > knowledge, light does travel at a constant range of speed that
> is at least
> > equal to or greater than zero mps but no greater than 186,000 mps.
> > ----

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