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Glenn you won't like my interpretation of dharmkaya light (it involves those
friggin contradictions)
ROD: >But what if we now call it a Halo..... now I think there maybe a greater
>chance of experiencing it.
>Different name, same thing!!!!!!!!
>the category Halo is already deeply embedded in your psyche, it gives you a
>handle with which reassess D light
ERIN: Rod, I wanted to respond to your claim that dharmkaya light and halos
are the same. I think what is typically associated with a halo is opposite
of what Pirsig is showing with dharmakaya light. The halo is to the priest as
the dharmakaya light is to the brujo.
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taken from internet sight about origin halos:
CHRISTIANITY:
The image of the halo is believed to have originated from the Greek god
Helios, whose head emanated rays of sunlight. Then when Christianity
flourished in the Mediterranean region, the Christians developed the round
halo, and it was first used by emperors and dignitaries when they would have
themselves painted. The color of the halo, which is most often yellow, comes
from its sun origins, and symbolizes knowledge.
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BUDDHISM :The halos and mandorlas that appear in religions such as Buddhism
and Hinduism are believed to have come to them through the explorers and
traders that went from Europe to Asia around the fourth century. The image
caught on quickly because of the idea of enlightenment that exists in these
religions. This halo doesn't have the same type of meaning that a Christian
halo would, it means that the wearer is an enlightened being and sees reality
as it truly exists. The picture of a halo surrounds the wearer and shows
them as having a clear head, being contained in a reality that only they can
see. Because anyone in these religions can be enlightened, then anyone can
wear a halo. It is not uncommon to see lay people represented in western
religious art with halos around their heads.
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Let's look at Jonathan's questions:
A. >-Is there an objective difference between light that blinds and light
>that illuminates?
B. >-Does the appearance of a Halo in a picture mean anything?
ERIN:
A. does blinded mean absense of light or intense light? I think absense of
light would makes sense about what he says about eyeblinks on page 388. We
ignore the darkness of every eyeblink as unreal!
B. the halo is a symbol of enlightenment
Halo---------------------dharmkaya light
1) typical Christian halos only appeared around high status emperors and
around the head
2) Buddhist the halo is extended to many lay people and is shown around the
wholde body
3) Pirsig and El Greco show it around human and nonhuman animals which are
typically considered unenlightened
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I also looked into the tiger poem by Blake and I guess Blake also wrote
another poem about Lamb. The discussion was Blake contemplating how what
created the lioin is the same creator as the lamb.
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Enlightenment of the dharmkaya halo seems to invovle cutting away the layers
of reality to get down to the core experience of human existence.
I think the seeing dharmkaya light is analogous to_ Conrad's Heart of
Darkness.
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Just to add some scientific investigations of these auras:
The image of a halo, or nimbus, as a mystical energy field surrounding sacred
figures and persons, appears in many religions. Whatever religion the halo is
in, it always represents a similar sacredness and shows the person that it
surrounds as a special being, religiously superior to other beings.
If such energy fields really do exist, is it because of supernatural, sacred,
or physical agents at work in the world around us? Semyon Kirlian, a Russian
scientist, in 1939 found that an image is created if a photographed object is
subjected to an electrical field. This coronal image he found, would emanate
from almost any object that he tested, but it resembled the spiritual image of
an aura surrounding sacred objects. Despite this resemblance he also found
that it had origins in the scientific world. Actually what is recorded is due
to quite natural phenomenon such as pressure, electrical grounding, humidity
and temperature. Changes in moisture, which may reflect changes in emotion,
barometric pressure, and voltage, among other things, will produce different
auras.
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