Erin
I'm sorry but you have completely missed the point..... halos and the
dharmakaya light are one and the same thing, I'm afraid you have fallen foul
of SOM to explain Halos' from a western perspective, they are both the
result of the same feelings of intense emotion or value change... but the
dharmakaya light is an accepted part of eastern culture, and Halos, because
of the influence of the church, are associated with saints ( or power)..
thereby distinguishing mere common man with the greater power of those in
the church
I can't believe you cut out the one paragraph referring to Pirsig... naughty
Rod
on 3/10/02 1:46 AM, enoonan at enoonan@kent.edu wrote:
>> ===== Original Message From moq_discuss@moq.org =====
> Glenn you won't like my interpretation of dharmkaya light (it involves those
> friggin contradictions)
>
>
> ROD: >But what if we now call it a Halo..... now I think there maybe a greater
>> chance of experiencing it.
>> Different name, same thing!!!!!!!!
>> the category Halo is already deeply embedded in your psyche, it gives you a
>> handle with which reassess D light
>
>
> ERIN: Rod, I wanted to respond to your claim that dharmkaya light and halos
> are the same. I think what is typically associated with a halo is opposite
> of what Pirsig is showing with dharmakaya light. The halo is to the priest as
> the dharmakaya light is to the brujo.
>
>
> _____________________
> taken from internet sight about origin halos:
>
>
> CHRISTIANITY:
> The image of the halo is believed to have originated from the Greek god
> Helios, whose head emanated rays of sunlight. Then when Christianity
> flourished in the Mediterranean region, the Christians developed the round
> halo, and it was first used by emperors and dignitaries when they would have
> themselves painted. The color of the halo, which is most often yellow, comes
> from its sun origins, and symbolizes knowledge.
> ---------------------
> BUDDHISM :The halos and mandorlas that appear in religions such as Buddhism
> and Hinduism are believed to have come to them through the explorers and
> traders that went from Europe to Asia around the fourth century. The image
> caught on quickly because of the idea of enlightenment that exists in these
> religions. This halo doesn't have the same type of meaning that a Christian
> halo would, it means that the wearer is an enlightened being and sees reality
> as it truly exists. The picture of a halo surrounds the wearer and shows
> them as having a clear head, being contained in a reality that only they can
> see. Because anyone in these religions can be enlightened, then anyone can
> wear a halo. It is not uncommon to see lay people represented in western
> religious art with halos around their heads.
>
> ___________________________________________
> Let's look at Jonathan's questions:
> A. >-Is there an objective difference between light that blinds and light
>> that illuminates?
> B. >-Does the appearance of a Halo in a picture mean anything?
>
> ERIN:
> A. does blinded mean absense of light or intense light? I think absense of
> light would makes sense about what he says about eyeblinks on page 388. We
> ignore the darkness of every eyeblink as unreal!
>
> B. the halo is a symbol of enlightenment
>
> Halo---------------------dharmkaya light
> 1) typical Christian halos only appeared around high status emperors and
> around the head
>
> 2) Buddhist the halo is extended to many lay people and is shown around the
> wholde body
>
> 3) Pirsig and El Greco show it around human and nonhuman animals which are
> typically considered unenlightened
>
> _____________________________________________________________
> I also looked into the tiger poem by Blake and I guess Blake also wrote
> another poem about Lamb. The discussion was Blake contemplating how what
> created the lioin is the same creator as the lamb.
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Enlightenment of the dharmkaya halo seems to invovle cutting away the layers
> of reality to get down to the core experience of human existence.
>
> I think the seeing dharmkaya light is analogous to_ Conrad's Heart of
> Darkness.
> _____________________________________
>
> Just to add some scientific investigations of these auras:
>
>
> The image of a halo, or nimbus, as a mystical energy field surrounding sacred
> figures and persons, appears in many religions. Whatever religion the halo is
> in, it always represents a similar sacredness and shows the person that it
> surrounds as a special being, religiously superior to other beings.
> If such energy fields really do exist, is it because of supernatural, sacred,
> or physical agents at work in the world around us? Semyon Kirlian, a Russian
> scientist, in 1939 found that an image is created if a photographed object is
> subjected to an electrical field. This coronal image he found, would emanate
> from almost any object that he tested, but it resembled the spiritual image of
> an aura surrounding sacred objects. Despite this resemblance he also found
> that it had origins in the scientific world. Actually what is recorded is due
> to quite natural phenomenon such as pressure, electrical grounding, humidity
> and temperature. Changes in moisture, which may reflect changes in emotion,
> barometric pressure, and voltage, among other things, will produce different
> auras.
>
>
>
>
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