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RISKY:
Your implication that the US government is responsible for global dignity is
exactly the type of abuse and disfunctionality that I fear these terms like
'dignity' and 'responsibility' lead to. If you want YOUR government
responsible for global dignity, please feel free to give it a try. I am
pretty sure it won't lead to any type of quality or progress. I suspect it
will lead only to a cycle of victimology. I could be wrong though...
WIM:I'm definitely trying to find a basis for exploring with Rog (among other
>things) what responsibility a leading nation has to share 'its' wealth. I
>hoped indeed a 'right to dignity' combined with relating 'rights', 'duties'
>and 'responsibilities' would be a beginning of such a basis, but Rog/Risky
>diminished this hope considerably with his latest postings. I'm currently
>collecting courage to answer him.
Roger,
I just want to say that I understand the fear of a cycle of victimology. But
there is a term "the fundamental attribution error' that refers to how we
underestimate situational factors and overestimate dispositional factors.
For example if your waitress messes up your order then you will be more likely
to attribute it to the waitress(bad memory, etc). If you were the waiter and
messsed up an order you would look at how busy the restaurant was, your boss
yelling at you right before etc.
I noticed in a previous post how you liked how Bush termed "the axis of evil"
but I think this "evil" is due to more situational factors then dispositional
factors. I know you don't want to treat terrorists as "victims".
but if we want to stop terrorism we need to focus on the conditions that lead
to terrorism rather then treating terrorists. You can empathisize with this
country without enabling terrorism.
I think your fear of cycle of victimology is valid but I think that it is
wrong to think that good things happen to good people. If there is any justice
it will be done by the people it will not just "happen".
I have no idea of how we can create a system in which victims are minimized
without creating a cycle of victimhood. I hope you and Wim can figure it out.
Erin
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