Re: MD Pirsig on the Death Penalty?

From: Valence (valence10@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Mar 14 2002 - 21:11:20 GMT


Hey Erin and Rod,

ERIN
> Okay so the MoQ protects the source that has the idea but it doesn't allow
all ideas to be tested in "test of time". The MoQ then seems to very
unpragmatic if it doesn't allow ideas to be tested against other ideas.

RICK
Doesn't allow? All ideas are tested in real-time whether the MOQ likes it
or not, and all moral reasoning is limited by foresight. But remember, the
MOQ is a value centered EVOLUTIONARY morality. That is, morality is
ultimately determined by its effects on evolution. Therefore, the MOQ can't
ultimately pronounce on the morality of any given event until after the
event's effect on evolution is revealed. But by exposing the evolutionary
structure of morality the MOQ provides a better framework with which to
analyze moral issues than previously existed (assuming, of course, that one
agrees with Pirsig's notions of morality and believes the MOQ to be a
coherent system). Using that framework would help us make better guesses at
what things will be moral and what things won't.

ROD
> One thing which has always confused me or at least strikes me as being
> hugely hypocritical, is that those religions/individuals who believe in
the
> afterlife, seem to be the ones most vehemently condoning the death
penalty,
> why???...

RICK
Because those same religious folk also believe that the universe is being
run on God's divine plan and thus, only God knows when taking a life 'fits
the plan', so only God can morally take lives. That's the idea, anyway...
it's not for everyone.

rick

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