Hi 3WD:
> You asked,
>
> > Who or what do you have in mind as possible patterns capable of
> > accessing the higher social or intellectual levels other than humans?
>
> We have had many discussions here about the division between biological and
> social in which many feel that some animals have moved over the border into
> some low level social activities. In fact in 'common language' there are
> all kinds of references to various 'social' structures and organization of
> other animals. Ape tool making or use and passing it on through training to
> offsprings come to mind as an example.
>
> But I'm not suggesting particular candidates, though I'm sure there are
> some people out there doing animal cognitive research who might suggest
> that even though not technically "social" at some that in the future there
> are 'good' candidates that might step over the line. Even if that step is
> with human help. The point is that setting up a system which supposedly
> takes into account "everything" that has a basic law or rule which says,
> all patterns that survive in general tend to evolve to higher levels and
> then to restrict two out of the four levels exclusively for humans to me
> seems logically inconsistent and biased toward Judeo Christian dogma. You
> know, the man's dominion over the earth and all things on it stuff. Of
> course taking the other position opens one up to criticism of
> anthropromophism and makes the "animal rights" people ecstatic.
Thanks for further explaining your position. I may not agree with it, but I
can see where you might be right.
Platt
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