Erin,
--- enoonan <enoonan@kent.edu> wrote:
> Glad we agree diversity is good. I am still not
> clear why you thought the MoQ
> would not be diverse. (consider Pirsig's distinction
> between philosophy and
> philosophology(?) --which were you expecting?).
> You are finding this forum diverse AND cultish--huh?
Scott:
Point taken (philosophy vs philosophology)! My
problem is articulating my position clearly. My
assumption was that there is more or less one
destination, Quality, with many paths to get there
(this is the diversity I expected). My surprise at
the "diversity" (perhaps a poor choice of words after
all) that I have found, was that there appears to be
many destinations (the pointing in so many different
directions), not my understanding of a monistic
conception of reality! I emphasize, again, that it is
not a criticism! I actually do NOT think this forum to
be cultish - just without context (the outsider
looking in) it seems that way! Probably more like it,
the outsider would think we were a bunch of nerds :-)
> ERIN: First in a global community there is no
> "out".
> There is no "president of the world" dictating what
> should happen either.
> The different countries have different needs.
> I do share your desire to keep the diversity but I
> would like to think it is
> possible that you can have a collective morality and
> diversity.
Scott:
Collective morality, collective behavior elicits the
image of a group of people acting in complete unison.
As such it is the antithesis of diversity.
Collectivism = one unified response. Diversity = a
multitude of responses. There is no "out" only if we
"relinquish our (individual) sovereignty."
Erin:
> I think my major concern is that a system may be
> disguised as for the
> individuals but at the cost of diversity.
> Capitalism--mixed feelings.
> I think it is for the individual and it is costing
> the world diversity!!
Scott:
The more you look at individuals, the more diversity
you see! The more you look away from individuals
(towards the group/collective), the less diversity you
see. I think that this is a truism.
Erin:
> As for the collective morality being fictitious-- do
> you think the social
> level is fictitious? you know the levels are
> patterns of VALUES?
Scott:
Collective morality is dangerous! In that respect it
is very real. It destroys lives (and not
indiscriminately)! There is nothing fictitious about
that. It's the 'collective' (the group that
collective morality seeks to guide) that is
fictitious!
Scott L Berry
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