I am reminded of the film "Life of Brian"
Brian says, "We're all individuals!"
Man in crowd says, "I'm not!"
:o)
André
--- Scott Thornberry <scotlberry@yahoo.com> wrote: >
Erin,
>
> --- enoonan <enoonan@kent.edu> wrote:
> > Glad we agree diversity is good. I am still not
> > clear why you thought the MoQ
> > would not be diverse. (consider Pirsig's
> distinction
> > between philosophy and
> > philosophology(?) --which were you expecting?).
> > You are finding this forum diverse AND
> cultish--huh?
>
> Scott:
> Point taken (philosophy vs philosophology)! My
> problem is articulating my position clearly. My
> assumption was that there is more or less one
> destination, Quality, with many paths to get there
> (this is the diversity I expected). My surprise at
> the "diversity" (perhaps a poor choice of words
> after
> all) that I have found, was that there appears to be
> many destinations (the pointing in so many different
> directions), not my understanding of a monistic
> conception of reality! I emphasize, again, that it
> is
> not a criticism! I actually do NOT think this forum
> to
> be cultish - just without context (the outsider
> looking in) it seems that way! Probably more like
> it,
> the outsider would think we were a bunch of nerds
> :-)
>
> > ERIN: First in a global community there is no
> > "out".
> > There is no "president of the world" dictating
> what
> > should happen either.
> > The different countries have different needs.
> > I do share your desire to keep the diversity but I
> > would like to think it is
> > possible that you can have a collective morality
> and
> > diversity.
>
> Scott:
> Collective morality, collective behavior elicits the
> image of a group of people acting in complete
> unison.
> As such it is the antithesis of diversity.
> Collectivism = one unified response. Diversity = a
> multitude of responses. There is no "out" only if
> we
> "relinquish our (individual) sovereignty."
>
> Erin:
> > I think my major concern is that a system may be
> > disguised as for the
> > individuals but at the cost of diversity.
> > Capitalism--mixed feelings.
> > I think it is for the individual and it is costing
> > the world diversity!!
>
> Scott:
> The more you look at individuals, the more diversity
> you see! The more you look away from individuals
> (towards the group/collective), the less diversity
> you
> see. I think that this is a truism.
>
> Erin:
> > As for the collective morality being fictitious--
> do
> > you think the social
> > level is fictitious? you know the levels are
> > patterns of VALUES?
>
> Scott:
> Collective morality is dangerous! In that respect it
> is very real. It destroys lives (and not
> indiscriminately)! There is nothing fictitious about
> that. It's the 'collective' (the group that
> collective morality seeks to guide) that is
> fictitious!
>
> Scott L Berry
>
>
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