hey Squonk,
you aksed:
>How do we feel about dreams?
>May we say that dreaming is closer to pattern Romantic quality?
>The experiences of some scientists suggests a classic flavour is at work,
>as
>in the interpretation of the Benzene ring?
>What is at work in dreaming and what does the MOQ have to say upon
>interpretation?
Elliot:
First, sorry for all the long responses all at once, I like to just sit down
every now and then and get it all out and usually so much has built up
theres alot to say.
As for dreams, i think the more important question is not what you have
asked Squonk but the cultural mores that influence it. This society and all
its SOM thinking has this idea that waking is real and dreaming is "not
real". Under the MoQ, we can safely say that dreams are another arena of
experience (waking being the only explored realm). neither is more "real"
in any objective sense. Carlos Castaneda, whom i enjoy very much, talks
alot about dreaming. in the world of Don Juan, dreams are a realm like
waking where one can have volition and percieve Quality. But we are still
infants in this world, we have not bothered to focus on the static patterns
there and so it seems less real than this world which we affirm everyday.
If in dreaming we study the things around us, and make them real, then we
may have volition and act there.
Therefore, dreams are no more romantic or classic than waking, just depends
on who you are and what Quality strikes you. I think classic types are more
prone to make their world of dreaming real because they a driven to analyse.
however, many classic types still only except dreams as "false" because
thats the social pattern. and for the last Question, what is at work in
dreaming? what else, Quality. To break it up into biological and social or
intellectual patterns is a error. sleeping is a biological pattern (and
social to some extent), but dreaming has its own patterns which we have
never studied (except for studies which demote dreams to sub waking
phenomenom) so we cannot write a metaphysics about them. perhaps
metaphysics dont work there, who knows.
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