Re: MD language-derived Social POV graph

From: elliot hallmark (onoffononoffon@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Jun 14 2002 - 10:17:38 BST


Ok,

Point A is where ape first raised his head, looked around and thought, whoa,
i am different, i am an individual, then having realized this looked back
down and continued behaving the same as all the other apes for lack of the
ability to have a better idea. This is when immitation begins, because
immitation is a choice, it is an intellectual idea and other
non-intellectual species cannot immitate, they only act according to social
Quality, which happens to line them up with everyone else. at point A, the
itellect exsists as a tool (as pirsig says, the social level aware of a
higher level)

We can only discuss human social because of the subjective division.

Point B is socrates, i guess, where the intellect distinguishes itself,
although it was always growing untill then.

the other points are arbitrarily important (even more so then the last two):
descartes, newton, galileo, copernicus are the first few, perhaps jesus,
karl marx, the buddha and castro (and they gasp) are the later ones (may i
add marcuse as well [and 1968 in western europe and possibly the US], and
pirsig of course). maybe throw the new deal in there somewhere. arange in
in chronological order and there you go.

Or, introvertedness all the way to schitzophrenia, but i asumme this graph
is supposed to be a chronological thing.

Point G doesnt exsist, except in someone rolling around on the ground,
frothing at the mouth speaking gibberish. The sage has no choice (supreme
choice), if someone thought G was enlightenment. I dont think this graph
incorporates all that is important, the relatioship is more complex
perhaps...

Elliot

> WHAT'S HERE?-- Point G
> CHOICE axis |
> | ___________________________________V___
> | _________/<--WHAT'S HERE? Point F_____
> | _/<--WHAT'S HERE? Point E_____
> | /
> | /
> | |
> | /<--WHAT'S HERE? Point D_____
> | |
> | |<--WHAT'S HERE? Point C_____
> |/
> ||
> ||
> ||
> ||
> ||
> ||
> ||
> ||
> |/ <--WHAT'S HERE? Point B_____
> |
> |
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> | <--WHAT'S HERE? Point A_____
>
> IMITATION axis
>
>

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