--- elliot hallmark <onoffononoffon@hotmail.com>
wrote: >
> > --- elliot hallmark <onoffononoffon@hotmail.com>
> >wrote: > andre,
> > >
> > > fine. but lets not pretend the MoQ is
> intellectual
> > > masturbation, it deals
> > > with reason inorder to transcend it.
> >
> >Hi Elliot,
> >
> >You've lost me there. But I trust you know what you
> >are doing. Let me know when you have used reason to
> >transcend itself.
> >
> >cheers,
> >André
>
> Elliot:
>
> As time has progressed for me, using reason, things
> have changed. Stories
> and ideas that were once a stretch to rationalize
> one day fit perfectly into
> the world. How perplexing the tales of Don Juan
> once seemed, how
> complicated and contrived Quality, how delusional
> devine love. but it all
> falls together and rises into something greater,
> like grass growing perhaps.
> reason, when exercised, does not build greater and
> greater walls about the
> mind but rather becomes flexible. paradoxes fall
> away to greater
> understanding. (eventually of course this
> understanding must itself fall to
> non-attachment).
>
> I already stated a metaphor of mine once, which i
> will repeat: An infant
> crawls on the ground, in the dust, on its hands and
> knees. it builds
> strength in its arms and in areas of its legs,
> seemingly getting only better
> and better (and more acustomed to) (at) crawling.
> but behold, with the
> strength developed while crawling the child stands,
> his point of view shifts
> forever and his legs work in new and never before
> thought of ways. while we
> must not become so accustomed to crawling that we
> never decide to walk, we
> must first master crawling before we walk.
>
> rather than accept the quotes you've given me as a
> counter argument for my
> understanding, i will let them spin around in my
> head till i can realize
> that both you and I are correct, that they are both
> of the single "taste".
> as i understand it (or have said before i understood
> it to the degree i do
> now) the only Truth is the one which holds all else
> true along side it (or
> perhaps in a qualitative heirarchy, who knows).
>
> although you say reason is not the way, here you are
> in this intellectual
> forum, stating confusion over ideas, struggling
> (maybe even a little?) to
> understand, to intellectualize, to point out
> paradoxes and the unreasonable
> as if it were folly. you use the word and concept
> enlightenment as if it
> were a goal.
>
you and i are the same.
>
"We are all Kosh." - Kosh, Babylon 5
P.L.U.R.
André
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