Hi 3wd:
You 'caught' me! I was making a Reform MOQ statement from the synagogue of
Gary and not Orthodox Pirsig MOQ statement. Sorry that I couched my words
as if I was speaking in an Orthodox manner.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: 3dwavedave <dlt44@ipa.net>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: MD Consciousness
> Gary
>
> > There was no real problem, only the idea of the MOQ that you were using
was
> > based on cloudy and confused thinking on the subject.
>
> If the "the idea of the MoQ" is "based on cloudy and confused thinking"
> it sure wasn't mine. Would you please point me to where, in any of
> Pirsig's works or comments, he makes any indication that the MoQ's
> social and intellectual levels "emerged simultaneously" and "coevolved".
> I seriously doubt if you will find any. What he does say and argue in
> many places is the social level emerged, evolved, and dominated for a
> very long historical period of time before the intellectual level
> emerged. And that the intellectual level is only now struggling to
> dominate the social, but it has not completely won the struggle.
>
> So while I may agree that your interpretation is more reasonable or
> closer to what "really" happened, it is just not what Pirsig proposes,
> or not MoQ.
>
> 3WD
>
>
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