From: Elizaphanian (Elizaphanian@members.v21.co.uk)
Date: Tue Oct 08 2002 - 23:54:37 BST
David (and all),
Thanks for the continued indulgence. A definition, then some more questions
for clarification, then one comment.
My dictionary gives as its first two senses of ideology: 1. a body of ideas
that reflects the beliefs and interests of a nation, political system etc
and underlies political action; 2. (Philosophy) the set of beliefs by which
a group or society orders reality so as to render it intelligible.
The questions:
Are you happy for this to stand as our working terminology?
Under (A) you talk about both ideology and dogma - how do you distinguish
the two?
Under (B), for someone operating as described, would you say that they have
a *different* ideology (that is, one which is able to discriminate between
many competing ideologies, rather in the way that an enlightened
understanding can incorporate and transcend unenlightened understandings) or
that they actually *lack* ideology (meaning that they are guided directly by
the light of DQ, in MoQ terms)?
The comment:
Indeed, determining the quality of ideologies is what this discussion is
about. I am happy to agree, for the sake of argument, that if we accept your
understanding of Pirsig, then your conclusions follow. What I want to come
to some agreement about, even if it is ultimately an agreement to differ, is
whether Pirsig's purported equations of social=conservative and
intellectual=liberal are correct.
Hopefully, having branched out a bit, we'll get to the point next time!
Thanks for your time.
Sam
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