RE: MD Sophocles not Socrates

From: erin (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Sat Oct 26 2002 - 23:26:26 BST


SAM:>I believe that the values of the fourth level - those within which
different >actions can static latch, the arena within which DQ can operate -
can best >be understood as those values which support full human flourishing -
>_eudaimonia_. Intellectual flourishing is one aspect of that full human
>flourishing, but there are areas of human flourishing - most prominently,
>art, music, poetry, friendship - which are not reducible to either social
>level values or intellectual values. They represent high quality
>achievements (and practices) which are not resolvable to either social
>quality or logical/scientific quality. They represent the best of humanity.
>And _that_ is what I think is missing when we talk of 'intellect' being the
>fourth level.
>

ERIN: I agree that logic is not sufficient definition
for the intellectual level.
The only place that I know of Pirsig defining the
intellectual level is when he says it is about symbol
manipulation. I am not sure if all your human achievements
can fall under that or not.
But the one 'pro' for keeping it as symbol manipulation is
that it does not limit other species.
Do you have any concern of making this a human centered
model?

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