In a message dated 11/11/98 2:11:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Stricklin.Jay@tchden.org writes:
<< "Phadrus thought that the Metaphysics of Quality could be a replacement for
>the paralyzing intellectual system that is allowing all this destruction
>(moral-less objectivisim) to go unchecked. The paralysys of America is the
>paralysis of moral patterns."(pg 351)
I hate when i cant find the quotes...How many pages are in your copy???
I>f all of this Moq stuff holds water, something, probably not the MoQ, is
>going to fill this gap. I content that the Moslem faith is significant
> contender. I see, not so much Moslem Ideals, but the hybrid, race tension
> fuled "happening" in popular western culture, which what is "happening" in
> western culture has undisputedly had an enormous influence over the rest of
> the (connected) world.
Gap? I assume you are talking about the difference between the "moralless
objectivity" and reality. How does the social context of the Moslem faith
have anything to do with it?
>"It is this intellectual pattern of amoral "objectivity" that is to blame
>for the social deterioration of America, because it has undermined the
>static social values necessary to prevent deterioration" This sounds like
> the canvas of a culture in need to "latch on" and some of these new American
.>interpreted Moslem values are definitely void of "objetivisim" of possibly
>any value.
I don't understand this. The five pillars of Islam are very explicit, but
they don't solve the "objective" problem any better than Christianity or
Buddhism or others. When you look at the "values" of any religion they are
all Social Static Patterns. They may work very well in Biological control,
But can you tell us specific values that coiuld be used to dynamically improve
the Social or Intellectual Levels of the USA?
Phadrus continues... "...It has never come forth with a single
>moral principle that distinguishes a Galileo fighting a social repression
>from a common criminal fighting social repression. It has as a result
>become a champion of both. That's the root of the problem" I've always
>thought that the "Dynamic" of what is to come, the unknowable destiny always
>stems from the most absurd or most predictable source. In light of this
>last quote, I find it ironic that one of the central propagating forces of
>the Moslem faith in America, besides obviously Moslem immigrants, are
>prisons. >>
I think that it is an important fact that African Americans that are in prison
find a culture that can allow them to more easily integrate in society and
doesn't compromise they're own beliefs. I think that a comparable number of
prisoners find god as born-again Christians. In both cases, I believe that
individuals are better prepared to participate in society because of previous
low value social patterns. I still can't see how it solves America's
problems.
The fundamental solution is to improve our Social Patterns. There are many
possible solutions here and many are being looked at everyday (look what's
happening to the Republicans in congress. Individuals who choose Islam will
find it, but so will anyone else who's looking.
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