Carmen:
At the risk of being branded racist, may I point out that the
overwhelming majority of the population of the world is "non-white." I
would also hazard a guess that the majority of "whites" are not
Anglo-Saxon and Protestant or even American. I suspect your antipathy to
"whites" is ideological.
You make some alarming statements in your response to Bob and elg14. For
the record, I make no defense of either of them. Let them defend
themselves if they can provide the proof of their arguments.
Carmen writes:
> First of all let me remind you both of another 'scientific fact':
> The IQ test is not a good tool to measure 'intellect', it is a heavily
> biased tool to favor whites. Heavily Biased to benefit the so call
> 'non-minorities'.
No, it is heavily biased as to culture and language, which are learned,
although apparently not in schools. Race is only incidental.
> I am against affirmative action, not because of the same reasons Bob and
> elg and the rest of the 'you'll be damn if you touch my Tax money to
> benefit such and such group'. Affirmative action is a 'bone thrown' to
> minorities to make them feel like somehow society is paying back for years
> of exploitation without paid.
No, I maintain that it is a political ploy to pit group vs. group for
the benefit of no-one but politicians.
> Affirmative action doesn't even begin to scratch
> the surface of the Social Suffering that minority groups have had to
> endure.
The pretense of exclusivity of suffering to "non whites" is patently
racist. If anything, Affirmative Action perpetuates the status of Blacks
as victims.
> Affirmative action: 'Thanks, but not thanks'. Take your Tax money and you
> know what you can do with it.
Great. We were wasting it anyway.
>
> Carmen: I wonder how the 'whites and Jews' would score in a test written on any of the Asian languages?. They wouldn't even know where to write their names.! (with a very few exceptions).
Again, a matter of education. BTW, ever read Aramaic?
> You mean to say that the American Indians went over to Europe
> and 'took the land by force' that
> belonged to the Europeans with the use of more powerful weapons and a little help from > biology (that is:'all the viruses' that the American inhabitants had accumulated
> throughout ages.)
The history of the world is rife with tales of more powerful groups
conquering the weak. The Romans made mincemeat and slaves of the Celts
and Teutons they encountered just as they did to many other ethnic
groups around the Mediterranean. Anglo-Saxons very nearly destroyed
Celtic culture.
The Aztec, Maya and Inca built no empires? Used no technology? Murdered
no innocents?
Please.
BTW, The vast majority of Europeans stayed home and didn't participate
in the conquest of the Americas.
> What should be done about it? if anything? Nothing. Western Civilization is paying the > price for their 'blank crimes'.
Exactly so. "Guilt" has cost us billions of dollars and millions of
lives so far.
I think it is counter-productive to revel in "victim" status. It is
better to deal with what is rather than what can't be changed.
> It is a story that is there for those who can 'see it'.
If you will.
And now for economics:
> Carmen replies: Que, QUE???. Sorry manito, but let me remind you 'employment' as we
> know it today is another way of 'slavery'.
Que, QUE? Does manna still fall from heaven? Did I miss something? All
these years as an oppressed worker and I could have been plucking my
family's needs off a tree? Clothing, medicine and food from thin air.
Huh.
> Most employers squeeze you dry and make you think that they are doing you a favor.
> That is a real crime. You guys are living in a Kaphian universe, please beam
> yourselves down.
"Most employers" invest their time and energy in an attempt to support
themselves and their families. If they hire someone else to help them,
is this a bad thing? Like Maria and Javier, who opened a grocery store
and hired my daughter to help them.
> Carmen replies: Another reminder..... Asian societies, African people and American
> Indian (let's don't forget the native Australian) have live here in this Earth a lot
> longer than this 'New World Order'
Again, all "whites" are not American. I would hazard a guess that
"whites" have shared the world with "non whites" from the beginning. I
would be as hesitant to ascribe ethnic purity to "non whites" as I would
to "whites", amiga.
> ( America is only about 223 years old) -
But Western civilization is thousands of years old. And successful.
> and heavily depending on 'hard sources of energy' and technology. Two very fragile
> branches of a tree that could brake any moment.
For the sake of all of us, I hope not.
Vaya con Dios, Carmen.
drose
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