Jackbrn1o@aol.com wrote:
I think we're at the point where we must agree to disagree. I mean,
to play on your analogy of a sports team; it absolutely makes sense to
me that if "every player on a team is great" then - yes - the team
would be great.
David Lind writes:
But what if every player is great in what they do, but are lousy at
team work? (I guess we'd need to define what is meant by "great" -
does it mean that they each excell in their role? Or does their being
great assume that they would also be great in team work as well?)
Jackbrn1o@aol.com wrote:
> Intellect cannot be destroyed or become null just because you put a group
of people together. It's ludicrious. Yes, groups, societies, etc., behave
different than individuals but there is such thing as group consciousness and,
thus, group intellect.
David Lind writes:
I disagree. I don't believe there's a group intellect. Yes,
individuals behave differently in groups than they might alone. But
this seems to be more the individual's intellect being affected by the
group. Do I believe there's an actual "presence" created by the
group? Yes I do (and Pirsig said this as well - "The Sleeping Giant")
The individuals are affected by the groups presence - this doesn't
mean the group has an intellect.
Jackbrn1o@aol.com wrote:
How can you say that societies can debate and make decisions but not
have any kind of intellect.
David Lind writes:
Societies can't debate. They can't make decisions. The individuals
within the society can do so and their views can be affected by the
society, but when have you ever heard a society debate?
Jackbrn1o@aol.com wrote:
Then how do these things get done? Any introductory sociology course
teaches group behavior. That behavior is dictated by something. That
something is an intellect.
David Lind writes:
So, are you saying there's an actual thought process that the group
has? I don't think any introductory sociology course is going to
teach that groups "think." I think the behavior is dictated by
something other than a "group intellect" - it's dictated by the
individuals with the group. And again, while individuals are affected
by the others in the group, I think it still comes down to the idea
that intellect belongs to individuals.
Shalom
David Lind
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