RE: MD focus forum starter

From: Erin N. (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Sat Nov 02 2002 - 17:41:13 GMT

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    >===== Original Message From moq_discuss@moq.org =====
    >Hi,
    >
    >> >The format is simple. We focus on a
    >> >passage from the book. The only requirement is that we focus on the
    >> passage.
    >> >As long as it addresses the meaning of the words in some way,
    >> anything is
    >> >game. That's all there is to it. There is no specific question posed.
    >> Or
    >> >rather, its like the question will always be, "what does this mean?"
    >> No
    >> >matter what the passage, the task is always the same; explore its
    >> meaning.
    >
    >Very good idea! I appreciate your initiative.
    >
    >> >What's it all about? (chapter 9)
    >> >
    >> >"When Phaedrus first read this passage he felt a kind of eerie
    >> feeling - a
    >> >feeling he might have had if he had passed in front of a strange
    >> mirror and
    >> >suddenly seen a reflection of someone he'd never expected to see. It
    >> was the
    >> >same feeling he got at the peyote meeting. This Zuni Indian was not
    >> exactly
    >> >someone else.>This was not just an isolated tribal incident going on
    >> here.
    >> This was>something of universal importance happening. This was
    >> EVERYMAN. There
    >> is not >a person alive who is not in some way or other in the kind of
    >> situation this >"witch" was in. It was just that his circumstances
    >> were so
    >> exotic and so
    >> >extreme one could now see it, by itself, out in the open."
    >> >
    >
    >To me this passage points to one of the consequenses of Pirsig's MoQ. We
    >are not in the ultimate sense an subject that has only secondary
    >relations with some disconnected, 'objective' world. Our 'dialogue' with
    >the world and other people make us what we are. We meet ourselves in
    >others, even or precisely when these others are so 'exotic'.
    >
    >> I remember somebody talking about how Lila was a deconstruction
    >> of the metanarrative of America. It seems to me like Pirsig is playing
    >> with
    >> that whole Cowboy /Indian dichotomy.
    >
    >I'd say it's about I/everybody else. The cowboy/ Indian dichotomy is
    >just one (important) example.
    >
    >Greetings, Patrick.
    >

    Hi Patrick,
    I agree with this entirely. I think every image you see
    is a reflection of *you*. But I think the hardest ones and
    the ones that give you that eerie feeling is when you see your
    opposite in the mirror.

    erin

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