RE: MD Sophocles not Socrates

From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sun Nov 03 2002 - 01:23:37 GMT

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    Sam asked DMB .................................................Is it your
    view that the integration of the levels is a matter of spiritual awareness
    (however its defined - feel free to offer any definition you like), so that
    advancing up the evolutionary tree is a question of mystical development, ie
    DQ, and therefore not something that can be understood in terms of the
    static levels of the MoQ?

    dmb says:
    Hmmm. Good question. I tend to think of the whole she-bang as essentially
    spiritual, but if I get your question, you're asking if this integration of
    the levels takes something beyond the levels, something spiritual or
    mystical perhaps? Is that about right? I suppose, like all growth, there's
    something Dynamic going on. But for the most part it seems to me that this
    integration is a pre-requisite for spiritual and mystical development. (This
    is one of the areas where Wilber is much more helpful than Pirsig.) Not that
    such things are the exclusive domain of intellectuals. Far from it. I think
    it only makes sense, in light of Maslow and others, who are incorporated
    into Wilber's work, to believe that these higher states of consciousness
    depends on a certain level of competence at all the lower levels. Basically,
    to enter the kingdom of heaven, you "gotta get your shit together" first.
    This is the static part. This part can be understood easily in MOQ terms;
    Lila, Rigel and the Captain. Each of these characters ... you know.

    Thanks,
    DMB

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