From: Steve Peterson (speterson@fast.net)
Date: Tue Nov 05 2002 - 23:21:40 GMT
Steve says:
>> Can you help me out? What are we talking about when we discuss the levels?
>>
>> They are levels of ______. Can you fill in the blank or explain?
>>
>>
>> Levels of awareness?
>>
>> Types of patterns?
>>
>> Ways of valuing?
>
Platt says:
> They are levels of Quality, value, morality, goodness. Thus, the
> biological level is better than the inorganic, the social better than the
> biological, the intellectual better than the social, and the Dynamic the
> best of all, the creator of all the other levels.
Steve says:
Thanks for responding. I'm sorry to make you explain this to me again. I
feel like I have reached a better understanding of the static/dynamic cut
and perhaps I am ready to take another crack at an improved understanding of
the levels.
While I'm at it, thanks to everyone who has answered my questions. I won't
name names so as to not promote celebrity on the list, but I really
appreciate the time that many of you have taken to answer my questions.
Platt says:
> Finally, my "addition" to the MoQ is to claim that the levels represent
> increasing levels of awareness (consciousness) and that mystic union
> with Dynamic Quality produces total awareness, similar to Wilber's
> description of the effect of great art: It "dissolves ego in nondual
> consciousness, and to that extent is experienced as an epiphany, a
> revelation, a release or liberation (freedom) from the tyranny of the
> separate self sense."
Steve says:
Levels of awareness makes some sense to me. I have been working with the
idea of the levels as "ways of valuing" which I think is similar to the idea
of levels of awareness.
Would you then agree that the levels do not not represent types of things,
ie types of patterns of value?
What type of awareness does a person have who has not attained this mystical
union? Does it make sense to say that a person has a certain level of
awareness within each level and is not restricted to one level of awareness?
Or do people climb a ladder of increased awareness from one level to the
next?
Steve
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