From: Jonathan B. Marder (jonathan.marder@newmail.net)
Date: Wed Nov 06 2002 - 06:46:57 GMT
Hi Steve, Platt,
STEVE
> What are we talking about when we discuss the levels?
>
> They are levels of ______. Can you fill in the blank or explain?
>
>
> Levels of awareness?
>
> Types of patterns?
>
> Ways of valuing?
PLATT
<<They are levels of Quality, value, morality, goodness. Thus, the
biological level is better than the inorganic, the social better than
the
biological, the intellectual better than the social, and the Dynamic the
best of all, the creator of all the other levels.>>
Jonathan now interjects:
Platt, I know that you can throw half a dozen quotes from Lila to
support this, but I think you will find Pirsig was sometimes careless
and self contradictory, e.g. in one place, he identifies morality with
value, but elsewhere he explicitly states that morality is INTERlevel,
concerning the interactions BETWEEN levels of value.
To say level X is "better" than level Y means that "The Theory of
Relativity" (of even Phlogiston theory) is somehow better than the
Carbon atom. This sounds like nonsense to me. I don't think they can be
compared on a simple one-dimensional scale of betterness. I think that
Steve's offerings make more sense.
Jonathan
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