From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Sun Nov 17 2002 - 22:27:34 GMT
Dear Joe,
You complimented me 7/11 11:59 -0800 wrongly with my 'scholarship and
memory'. You're mainly observing the memory of my PC and the searching
facilities of Outlook Express.
You wrote:
'when you apply words like 'value of their versatility/adaptability,'
'different amounts' to Dynamic Quality. Do you statically categorize DQ? Is
it removed from instinctive experience?'
I guess you mean 'pre-intellectual' -the word Pirsig used- with
'instinctive'.
No, I only (intellectually) categorize static patterns of values. I
experience value/Quality. That which I cannot categorize I call DQ. I can't
categorize it further than that, because it is not recognizably patterned.
Pirsig's metaphor for DQ, 'the cutting edge of experience' strikes a chord
with me. Intellectually or otherwise, I don't know; in other words I don't
really know how to categorize the patterns of values represented by
metaphors and paradoxes. I try to get closer to grasping DQ by categorizing
static patterns of values that have newly emerged (just behind that 'cutting
edge').
I experience DQ (uncategorizable experience) more often when newly emerging
patterns are newer (if they are even after some consideration really not
comparable to existing patterns of values) and when the pattern of values
that dissolves or is weakened in the process is from a higher level in
Pirsig's categorization.
You wrote:
'Would you say that the metaphor "conscious motivation/justification of
actions in a way that is acceptable to others" has some of the meaning of
the metaphor "packaging?"'
I am afraid that the metaphor 'packaging' has too little meaning for me to
compare them. This is probably due to a second, not literal meaning, to the
verb 'to package' which -not having English as mother tongue- largely eludes
me. (I have looked up the original posting of Maggie of 28/8 16:08 -0400, in
which she introduced the metaphor, and I have looked up the word in my
dictionary, but neither was much help.)
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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