From: Patrick van den Berg (cirandar@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Nov 19 2002 - 01:34:02 GMT
Hi Erin, other Focus-interested people,
> So the quote that gets more at what I am interested in is this
> pg227 Chap 15
> "Sometimes between sleep and waking there's a zone where
> the mind gets a glimpse of old active subconscious worlds."
> So I guess my question is what is this zone?
> Somewhere between me/you, awake/asleep, on/off?
I wouldn't be me if I didn't take a side-alley to you writing this...
the question you ask here is very interesting, but I really don't know
how to answer it. But the 'side-alley' I had in mind which relates to
the 'street' you're walking in here above, is the statement which
evolved naturally this evening out of a reflective discussion on a
personal situation: 'Sometimes you don't know you don't know the reason
why you're (un)happy about something.' (that's twice 'you don't know')
That is, say you're unhappy, and you think you know why. But sometimes
you later find out a BETTER reason (which hints at a solution to get out
of your unhappiness) of why you're unhappy. The point is that this
'better reason' of your unhappiness always was there, waiting to be
acknowledged, but you didn't even acknowledge at the time that there was
this 'better reason' to be acknowledged...
To relate this to your Lila-passage, the mind at first DID receive input
from the subconscious realm, but used it in the wrong way, which wasn't
intended by the subconscious. Just a mis-communication. An AHA-erlebnis
or an experience of dynamic quality can 'tune' the communication between
the levels (intellectual and biological) on some later moment again.
Hm, okay, this looks like I'm favoring 'psycho-analysis' here perhaps,
but that's not what I mean. In psycho-analysis one assumes that there is
a really deep subconscious reason for your behavior and the problems you
have. But the intellect can go (with the supported guidance of a
psychotherapist) too far here, making a narrative around some minor
trauma of your childhood or something. Like our friend Robert says in
Zen (more or less, can't remember it precisely): when truth is knocking
at your backdoor, you don't let him in, and you keep on watching for it
out of your front-window. Psycho-analysis is ... uhm, digging in your
cellar like Kevin Beacon does in Stirr of Echoes. Psycho-analysis
assumes there's a dead body in your cellar, behind the wall or in the
concrete. But of course, in real life there's no dead body there.
Instead, the person is alive and well, knocking on your back door...
Hm, I guess I'm elaborating a bit too much on the metaphors here! I saw
in the archive a thread on a Metaphysics of Metaphors. Maybe I should
dig into this MoM. Hm.
Friendly greetings, Patrick.
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