RE: MD (Patrick is it.) Focus forum - round three

From: Erin N. (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Tue Nov 19 2002 - 17:50:19 GMT

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    >> So the quote that gets more at what I am interested in is this
    >> pg227 Chap 15
    >> "Sometimes between sleep and waking there's a zone where
    >> the mind gets a glimpse of old active subconscious worlds."
    >> So I guess my question is what is this zone?

    DMB says:
    Edgar Allen Poe used to keep himself in this twilight zone as inspiration
    for his fiction.

    Erin: I was thinking imagination is important for
    this zone.

    Patrick:>'Sometimes you don't know you don't know the reason
    why you're (un)happy about something.' (that's twice 'you don't know')
    To relate this to your Lila-passage, the mind at first DID receive input
    from the subconscious realm, but used it in the wrong way, which wasn't
    intended by the subconscious. Just a mis-communication. An AHA-erlebnis
    or an experience of dynamic quality can 'tune' the communication between
    the levels (intellectual and biological) on some later moment again.

    >ike our friend Robert says in
    >Zen (more or less, can't remember it precisely): when truth is knocking
    >at your backdoor, you don't let him in, and you keep on watching for it
    >out of your front-window.

    Erin:
    I think this is quote is interesting.
    Because I thought this zone was about seeing
    paradoxical truth.
    Also when you mentioned psychoanalysis you made
    me wonder if hypnosis is at all related.
    Pirsig wasn't hypnotized obviously but he
    was talking about trying to hold on to what
    was happening because if he became more awake
    or more asleep he would forget.

    Okay I guess we can hit the off button for this topic.

    erin

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