Re: MD levels (Down with Types of Value, Up with Types of Patterns)

From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Tue Nov 26 2002 - 07:38:45 GMT

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    Dear Platt,

    You wrote 9 Nov 9:33 -0500:
    'According to the MoQ, experience (awareness) is PRIOR to (patterns of)
    values, not identical with such patterns. Patterns are intellectual concepts
    formed AFTER direct experience.'

    To explain 'patterns of values' to people used to subject-object thinking,
    this is fine.
    When we try to found a Metaphysics of Quality however (which is a degenerate
    activity compared to contributing to the 'migration' of patterns of values),
    I'd still say that we only experience AS atterns. Experience IS recognition
    of the pattern you are conforming to (like in the hot stove example). In the
    absence of patterns we don't experience. And Dynamic Quality is the
    'newness' of those patterns, their just having cristallized or been formed
    from older patterns.
    Understanding 'patterns of values' as intellectual concepts formed after
    direct experience sets up a appearance - reality distinction again and
    effectively makes 'patterns of values' into a subjective category and
    'direct experience' into the objective one. It re-introduces SOM under the
    guise of MoQ.

    With friendly greetings,

    Wim

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