From: jhmau (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue Nov 26 2002 - 19:10:14 GMT
On 24 Nov 02 11:22PM Wim Nusselder at wim.susselder @ antenna.nl writes:
Hi Wim
> Dear Patrick,
>
> I don't want to be a spoilsport, so I'll provide you all with a quote for
> round four, but I don't know if I will be able to participate much myself.
> (I still have postings from two weeks ago to answer.) It is a quote that
> more or less founds my understanding of 'patterns of values'.
>
> snip>
> From 'Lila' chapter 9:
> 'Phaedrus saw that not only a man recovering from a heart attack but also
a
> baby gazes at his hand with mystic wonder and delight. He remembered the
> child Poincare referred to who could not understand the reality of
objective
> science at all but was able to understand the reality of value perfectly.
> When this reality of value is divided into static and Dynamic areas a lot
> can be explained about that baby's growth that is not well explained
> otherwise.
> One can imagine how an infant in the womb acquires awareness of simple
> distinctions such as pressure and sound, and then at birth acquires more
> complex ones of light and warmth and hunger. We know these distinctions
are
> pressure and sound and light and warmth and hunger and so on but the baby
> doesn't. We could call them stimuli but the baby doesn't identify them as
> that. From the baby's point of view, something, he knows not what, compels
> attention. This generalized "something," White-head's "dim apprehension,"
is
> Dynamic Quality. When he is a few months old the baby studies his hand or
a
> rattle, not knowing it is a hand or a rattle, with the same sense of
wonder
> and mystery and excitement created by the music and heart attack in the
> previous examples.
joe:this seems to be a description of "the instinctive sensing of realiy."
It answers a question--how can I learn?
> If the baby ignores this force of Dynamic Quality it can be speculated
that
> he will become mentally retarded, but if he is normally attentive to
Dynamic
> Quality he will soon begin to notice differences and then correlations
> between the differences and then repetitive patterns of the correlations.
> But it is not until the baby is several months old that he will begin to
> really understand enough about that enormously complex correlation of
> sensations and boundaries and desires called an object to be able to reach
> for one.
joe:as a baby I am still instinctively sensing reality, and I instinctively
sense the existence of the 'other' in a different place. I have developed
an instinctive sense of 'existence.' My sense of the difference indicates a
growth in self-awareness.
This object will not be a primary experience. It will be a complex
> pattern of static values derived from primary experience.
joe:after many instinctive movements testing my body in sports and
relationships, I become aware of an instinctive sense of 'purpose' or
'direction' and reach for the 'other.' I grow further in self-awareness.
> Once the baby has made a complex pattern of values called an object and
> found this pattern to work well he quickly develops a skill and speed at
> jumping through the chain of deductions that produced it, as though it
were
> a single jump.
joe:i am self-aware in my instincts, or, perhaps, one instinct is aware of
others, different instincts at difference times, and my self-awareness is a
center or gravity so to speak. I become an individual acting "as though it
were a single jump."
>This is similar to the way one drives a car. The first time
> there is a very slow trial-and-error process of seeing what causes what.
But
> in a very short time it becomes so swift one doesn't even think about it.
> The same is true of objects. One uses these complex patterns the same way
> one shifts a car, without thinking about them. Only when the shift doesn't
> work or an "object" turns out to be an illusion is one forced to become
> aware of the deductive process. That is why we think of subjects and
objects
> as primary. We can't remember that period of our lives when they were
> anything else.
joe:my instincts can be trained, and at a certain point I am changed. The
beginning of an intellectual order of self-awareness when I instinctively
sense "illusion" or "object." Maybe I develop an instinctive "curiosity" or
"caring."
> In this way static patterns of value become the universe of
distinguishable
> things. Elementary static distinctions, between such entities as "before"
> and "after" and between "like" and "unlike" grow into enormously complex
> patterns of knowledge that are transmitted from generation to generation
as
> the mythos, the culture in which we live.'
joe:I create myself more or less with a hell of a lot of help, and I am not
alone! "My aloneness" is a common misconception and I seek "celebrity"
though it will be nothing new as I have already been created by it.
> With friendly greetings,
>
> Wim
joe
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