From: Erin N. (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Sun Dec 01 2002 - 05:38:51 GMT
>
>> GLENN: If we don't allow this human element, then we can all agree
>> >that "no instrument can detect hot or cold", much less the President.
>>
>> ERIN: Well here is the point. We can set a machine
>> to dectect when it is hot or cold (by beeping or whatever)
>> but yeah that hot or cold is relative to us.
>> I don't agree a machine can detect the President.
>> It can detect a fingerprint. You would have to
>> tell the machine what fingerprint is the President.
>> So yes this 'human element' is what I thought was
>> Pirsig's point so whats the prob?
>>
>
>The difference between 'detecting' fingerprints or whole presidents is a
>matter of (quantitative) complexity, not of principle. (What the problem
>is? Er...)
Increasing complexity...like to a social level?
Isn't that what Pirsig is saying?
erin
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