Re: MD The Populist Persuasion

From: Matt the Enraged Endorphin (mpkundert@students.wisc.edu)
Date: Tue Dec 10 2002 - 00:32:45 GMT

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    Mari,

    You said:
    Did Pirsig say something to the effect that the reason he kept
    "slips" was so he could empty his head so new information could be more
    easily accessed? Didn't he also say something to the effect of 99%(?) of
    everything we know we have been told or read. In other words there isn't
    much that is original?

    Matt:
    He absolutely did say things to those effect (in the beginning of Lila he
    talks about the slips) and its in large part why I find such a strong
    tension between some of the things he says. Contrast when he says that 99%
    of everything is unoriginal with his attitude in ZMM when he says (about
    Phaedrus), "He wanted this thesis not to owe anyone anything." (ch 28)
    Now, Pirsig describes the old him as being infected with extreme forms of
    megalomania. This doesn't necessarily carry forward, but I don't think it
    disappears, either.

    The scholar remark was actually a reference to when Pirsig describes
    Phaedrus as an "abominable scholar" (ch 11). Like the megalomania, I think
    he's matured beyond that in large part.

    As a whole, I'm hesitant to stray too far into battles about Pirsig's
    psychological makeup and his originality. I do offer them as
    counter-weights to the often-enough made claim that Pirsig's the most
    original thinker in this past century. The brief reference to his
    psychology was simply made to underscore my main point: that a distinction
    between philosophology and philosophy is untenable and not useful.

    Matt

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