From: Glenn Bradford (gmbbradford@netscape.net)
Date: Fri Dec 20 2002 - 22:51:09 GMT
Erin,
>Glenn:
>When you describe acausal as something way out there in the universe,
>supposedly affecting behavior, I take this to mean that you think
>the behavior is caused, but just by unknown agents.
Erin: "just because i use words like affecting, relationship,
connected it doesn't automatically mean causal."
Are you saying that the thing way out there in the universe,
supposedly affecting behavior, is somehow not in the causal chain?
It's like the following hair-splitting argument:
When the jet hit the North Tower, it affected the building but
it didn't cause it to fall. It fell over 30 minutes later.
Conclusion: the jet did not cause the tower to fall.
Erin:"Acausal is the idea there is a relationship but you don't
know how they are related."
This doesn't make sense. If "you don't know how they are related"
then how do you know "there is a relationship" in the first place?
Psychic powers? Don't you mean "...how they *got* related"?
Leaving out the word "cause" in your definition of acausal
doesn't mean it isn't implied. To say "acausal is the idea
that there is a relationship whose cause is unknown" is to say the
same thing. To take Jung's example, you don't know how the scarab
motifs (the related things) manage to show up together in quick
succession (related in time), but implicitly you believe there are
unknown causes for it out there in the universe.
And where's that webpage you promised me you'd try to find?
Glenn
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