Re: MD "linear causality"

From: Steve Peterson (speterson@fast.net)
Date: Mon Jan 06 2003 - 16:11:30 GMT

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    Magnus, Matt, Glenn, all,

    I like way Magnus organizes the sciences based on the static levels.

    >Magnus:
    > I like Pirsig's route. It says that science, the natural sciences that
    > is, is not written in stone. The formulas and algorithms we hold for
    > truths today may not be the only truth tomorrow or in a hundred years.

    (Thus, none of them are really Truth.)

    >
    > Pirsig's route says that Newton was not an idiot although his theories
    > of gravity is now not as true as they once where. The route also says
    > that, for example, the speed of light might not be as absolute as
    > Einstein claimed, etc.
    >
    > There is still a difference between the natural sciences and other,
    > social sciences, humanities, etc. and that difference is clearly stated
    > by the MoQ, loud and clear for those who have understood it.
    >
    > Natural sciences are more static, i.e. lower on the static ladder.
    > Natural sciences explains the first level. So in that way, it's still a
    > more basic science than other.
    >
    > Biology, zoology, etc. explains the second, biological level and so on.
    >
    > There's no need to be offended by the MoQ because it equals natural
    > science and human science, because it doesn't. Not if you look carefully.
    >
    > Magnus
    >
    Steve:

    As a high school science buff, I came to think that physics was the only
    true science because all other knowledge must follow from the physical laws.
    Through the MOQ I now understand that there are qualitative differences
    between mechanics and biology and biology and anthropology, so it makes a
    lot of sense to keep different sciences separate (e.g. natural, biological,
    social). Biology could never be explained by physics and culture could
    never be explained by biology.

    Steve

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