From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Aug 03 2004 - 19:11:15 BST
Hi Mark H,
>On 2 Aug 2004 at 18:07, johnny moral wrote:
>
>But I think if no mother ever noticed me gestating or
>being born, if no people ever noticed my existence, then I think the
>conclusion would be that I do not exist.
>
>msh says:
>Hi Johnny. Sorry for buttin' in, but I can't resist. So who would
>be drawing that conclusion?
>
>It's like asking "Dammit, do I exist or not?" The irrefutable
>response is "Who wants to know?" ;-)
That would be the conclusion of everyone. I wouldn't exist. I have never
noticed a younger brother, my mother never noticed a younger son being born,
there was no younger brother enrolled in school or babysat by neighbors, no
one has ever seen one or had any reason to believe that there is one. A
younger brother does not exist.
Everyone who exists has been noticed by someone, everything that exists has
been noticed by someone. Things only exist in consciousnesses.
Things that are discovered, like a new species or a new star or planet, come
into existence at the moment of discovery. Their prior existence is then
postulated back into history, which is now different from what it had been,
but it now has to be different, there is no way for it to be consitent (or
coherent) without this new thing existing. It wouldn't make sense for the
new thing not to exist.
Johnny
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