Re: MD the metaphysics of free enterprise

From: ml (mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Tue Aug 03 2004 - 21:03:53 BST

  • Next message: David Morey: "Re: MD the metaphysics of free-enterprise"

    Hello Johnny:

    Thanks for your response. I am not sure why,
    I'll go back and look, but I somehow got spun
    into a place that did not make sense when I
    read the post I was responding to. (I am prone
    to recursive loops of quasi-dyslexia.)

    thanks--mel

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "johnny moral" <johnnymoral@hotmail.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 12:07 PM
    Subject: Re: MD the metaphysics of free enterprise

    > Hi Mel,
    > Not sure I understand the distinctions your making. I'm saying there's
    one
    > Morality, one Reality, one Quality, and that it is the same for all of us,
    > so my existence doesn't depend on someone else arbitrailiy being conscious
    > of me in the sense that if they fail to notice me I would cease to exist.
    > They will notice me, because Reality, or God, will not give them a
    different
    > reality than it gives me. (or there would be a reason if they didn't
    notice
    > me, which fits consistently in with Morality and makes sense later. -
    that
    > is the biggest Moral expectation, that there are reasons for everything,
    and
    > all will make sense and fit together as a whole, even if we don't happen
    to
    > see how it will at the moment.).
    >
    > I exist because my mother noticed me (as the somewhat expected result of
    > sexual intercourse) and then the obstretician noticed me and eventually
    lots
    > of people have come to notice me, and therefor I can't just cease to exist
    > or all these people's realities would not be consitent. But I think if no
    > mother ever noticed me gestating or being born, if no people ever noticed
    my
    > existence, then I think the conclusion would be that I do not exist.
    >
    > Johnny
    >
    > Johnny:
    > >Yes, but I don't believe that someone has a choice but to observe me,
    > >because his observation is secondary to the experience of Quality, and
    > >Quality orignates his observation. The pattern of me exists in Morality,
    so
    > >I will be observed when Moraity creates both the consciousness that
    > >observes me and the pattern (me) that is being observed.
    > >
    >
    > mel:
    > Your point of view is interesting. Correct me if I am wrong here,
    > but it looks like you have just labeled or attributed small 'q'
    > qualities manifesting in Morality what the religious would seem
    > to label as God. While Quality seems to be the existentialist's
    > Being. ...your thoughts? .
    >
    > _________________________________________________________________
    > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfeeŽ
    > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
    >
    >
    >
    > MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org
    > Mail Archives:
    > Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
    > Nov '02 Onward -
    http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html
    > MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net
    >
    > To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at:
    > http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
    >

    MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org
    Mail Archives:
    Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
    Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html
    MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net

    To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at:
    http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html

    This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Tue Aug 03 2004 - 22:02:05 BST