Re: MD the metaphysics of free enterprise

From: johnny moral (johnnymoral@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Aug 02 2004 - 19:07:35 BST

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    Hi Mel,
    Not sure I understand the distinctions your making. I'm saying there's one
    Morality, one Reality, one Quality, and that it is the same for all of us,
    so my existence doesn't depend on someone else arbitrailiy being conscious
    of me in the sense that if they fail to notice me I would cease to exist.
    They will notice me, because Reality, or God, will not give them a different
    reality than it gives me. (or there would be a reason if they didn't notice
    me, which fits consistently in with Morality and makes sense later. - that
    is the biggest Moral expectation, that there are reasons for everything, and
    all will make sense and fit together as a whole, even if we don't happen to
    see how it will at the moment.).

    I exist because my mother noticed me (as the somewhat expected result of
    sexual intercourse) and then the obstretician noticed me and eventually lots
    of people have come to notice me, and therefor I can't just cease to exist
    or all these people's realities would not be consitent. But I think if no
    mother ever noticed me gestating or being born, if no people ever noticed my
    existence, then I think the conclusion would be that I do not exist.

    Johnny

    Johnny:
    >Yes, but I don't believe that someone has a choice but to observe me,
    >because his observation is secondary to the experience of Quality, and
    >Quality orignates his observation. The pattern of me exists in Morality, so
    >I will be observed when Moraity creates both the consciousness that
    >observes me and the pattern (me) that is being observed.
    >

    mel:
    Your point of view is interesting. Correct me if I am wrong here,
    but it looks like you have just labeled or attributed small 'q'
    qualities manifesting in Morality what the religious would seem
    to label as God. While Quality seems to be the existentialist's
    Being. ...your thoughts? .

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