From: john williams (ducati900@bigpond.com)
Date: Sun Jan 12 2003 - 11:19:20 GMT
DMB says:
> Again, I very much agree, except for one little thing. Germany had its
fair
> share of skeptics and dissenters, but they were among the first to die.
The
> NAZI were bashing in the heads of liberals and intellectuals even before
> Hitler came to power.
Spot on, When I hear people wondering out loud how societies can let such
things as the Holocaust happen I wonder how strongly they would voice their
opinions if their necks were on the line.
Patrick said:
In this respect I often have wondered how people like Hitler or Stalin
could commit such hideous crimes to humanity. Hitler was a human being.
Stalin was a human being. You and I share over 99.9% of our genes with
them. What does that say about who we are? The 'shadow' part in us (a
term from Ken Wilber) was put to reality in high extent by Hitler, but
don't we all carry this 'shadow' part in us?
I must say that the last few months, I've started to doubt the premise
that all men are good in principle, because of personal experiences and
what I see in the media. Actually this shaking of my 'faith' so to say
has quite an impact on a deeply rooted static quality in me.
Do you believe in the 'good' of men?
Self interest is a greater motivator, If it is seen that being good is the
best option then thats how the majority will go. I have no doubt that my
community would pin me to the wall if it would keep their own family safe.
Personal freedom will be the first thing to go in our brave new world.
John from The Rock
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