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From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Fri Aug 13 2004 - 02:45:02 BST

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    Hi Mark and David M, and all,

    On 12 Aug 2004 at 20:38, wrote:
    Ken Wilber does not present a coherent metaphysics, but the
    metaphysical assumptions underlying his writings may be teaselled out
    so to speak. A good analysis of this is at:
    http://trumpeter.athabascau.ca/content/v17.1/rowe.html
    I can't say it is wrong, but it does not make for good philosophy in
    my view.

    msh says:
    Thanks for the link, Mark. And remember, a metaphysics is neither
    right nor wrong, no more than polar coordinates are wrong and
    Cartesian coordinates are right, or Riemann was right and Euclid was
    wrong. The question is, how useful is it in describing reality.

    I think we all prefer MOQ over SOM because MOQ allows us to make
    value judgements that are not just personal opinion. There's no room
    for objective value in a SOM because everything is either mind or
    matter.

    My problem is that, although I prefer MOQ, I'm constantly being held
    down by SOM. It's a struggle.

    Mark-M:
    I've read many articles by KW which have made good reading and
    enjoyed them. However, these are far outweighed by material i found
    to be very depressing, especially when reflecting upon gullible
    nature from which, sound intellect may not guarantee protection.

    msh says:
    I've read some material by KW but was kind of put off by the quality
    of his writing, which I found to be a bit awkward. I'm also turned
    off my the pounding commercialism of his sites. (Sorry DMB, I know
    he's a friend of yours). But I know this doesn't mean he offers
    nothing of value. Mark, can you refer me to some of the material you
    enjoyed? I'd also be interested in what you call his depressing
    reflections "upon gullible nature from which, sound intellect may not
    guarantee protection."

    Thanks,
    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)

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