Re: MD MOQ and The Problem Of Evil

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Wed Aug 18 2004 - 19:56:30 BST

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    Ham: Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary cites as its first
    definition for absolute: "a. free from imperfection"; b.. "pure". (Only
    the second definition refers to "...characteristic of a ruler completely
    free from constitutional or other restraint. And even this is not far off
    the mark for my Absolute.) Need I say more?

    DM: I am disquiet about 'free from imperfection', as
    much of reality is awful and troubled, an absolute that
    fails to recognise this is not taking responsibility for reality
    and is detaching itself from reality. I prefer the language
    Jung uses as per my Jung post. The 'ruler' idea also grates
    with me, as this reality is made up of both SQ and DQ,
    restraint and freedom.

    Ham: > As for Essence, your "home brew" analogy expresses exactly what I did
    to
    > arrive at Essence -- i.e., boil down the complexity of reality in order to
    > reduce it to its essence.

    DM: I do not like boiling down reality, I like Pirsig's
    recognition in SQ and the levels of the full ontological
    reality of the whole of being. Comments?

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    >
    > > Hi Ham
    > >
    > > Happy to say that god is the ultimate category
    > > of the possible. But why is either absolute' or 'essence'
    > > good words for this? 'Absolute' is OKish but is
    > > tainted with connections to the idea of a god of
    > > law, 'essence' seems/sounds too much like
    > > something you get when you have boiled something
    > > down to a reduction.
    > >
    > > regards
    > > David M
    >
    > Unlike some authors and their interpreters who use words as they see fit
    > rather than as commonly defined in a dictionary, I prefer to start, at
    least
    > with common usage, improvising as necessary only to
    > better express a thought or concept which "may not be so common".
    Absolute
    > is such an example. Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary cites as its
    first
    > definition for absolute: "a. free from imperfection"; b.. "pure". (Only
    > the second definition refers to "...characteristic of a ruler completely
    > free from constitutional or other restraint. And even this is not far off
    > the mark for my Absolute.) Need I say more?
    >
    > As for Essence, your "home brew" analogy expresses exactly what I did to
    > arrive at Essence -- i.e., boil down the complexity of reality in order to
    > reduce it to its essence. I hope you can do the same. Thanks for your
    > support, David.
    >
    > Essentially yours,
    > Ham
    >
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