From: ml (mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Sat Aug 21 2004 - 17:09:49 BST
Hello Chris:
> Interesting. I've been noticing the same thing, starting from a very
> different angle: connectionist artificial intelligence.
mel:
This IS intriguing, probably off topic, but can you give me references
to check this out or we could communicate off line unless others see
this as appropriate.
It raises a question, AI, as an entre into DQ-SQ from Physical to
Artificial-Social and Intellectual as an alternative "evolution" in the
data/information theory world
>
> Based on some theorizing I've done about how parts of the brain share
> information, I decided that the root of all unpleasant feeling
> (suffering) is mental tension: when part of the brain is confronted with
> something it doesn't expect. Release of tension is pleasurable. Note
> that unexpected sensations from the body can cause this kind of mental
> disagreement: physical tension can cause mental tension, which may be
> why electric shocks are so unpleasant (and may have some interesting
> implications for repetitive stress injury). Sometimes we learn to
> appreciate the tension when we know it'll be released: humor and
> learning on the mental side; being tickled and sex on the physical side.
>
> Anyway, I applied this theory, and found that if something is causing me
> physical pain, bringing my brain in line with what's actually coming in
> from my body makes most of the feeling go away. It even works on
> ice-cream headaches and sensitive spots on my teeth.
>
> What I do is, I assume that the injury is causing more muscle tension
> and other sensations than I expect, and I try to imagine what's actually
> happening (what signals are actually being sent) and tell my brain to
> expect them. It's a bit like learning to see one of those two-way
> drawings. And it seems to work.
>
> One way to deal with mental tension is dissociation: just make the
> disagreeing parts of your brain stop talking to each other.
> Dissociation is usually not healthy, though it can be adaptive. But I
> don't think what I'm describing here is dissociation.
>
> Hope this is interesting, and maybe even useful...
mel:
Yes! this is interesting. You have given me insight into something I
tried to explain to a doctor in a different way. He thought I was nuts to
turn down pain killer after knee surgery.
I used a clumsy analogy for stating that pain killers usually reduce
my overall capacity for awareness, which makes the sensations
about my surgery or injury a larger part of my experience of
"all of which I am aware". Your description is more lucid than my
"reacing into the experience" attempt.
Regarding dissociation, and your statement helps me place this in
an MoQ context, I believe that pain looked at in this manner is the
opposite of dissociation.
Try this: Dissociation turns away from the quality of the ongoing
NOW, and retreats into a static quality model of preferred illusion.
Full bore attention on the sensation of "pain" is in fact leaving the
S-Q assumptions about it "that everyone knows" and embracing the
full Dynamic Quality of what is flowing into experience Now.
thoughts?
thanks--mel
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