From: Joseph Maurer (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu Aug 26 2004 - 17:41:56 BST
On 26 August 2004 8:04 AM Platt writes to Ham:
Platt: Logically, there must be one for there to be a dichotomy. Thus,
Jasper's
"Comprehensive" is a logical necessity. I think it was Plato who observed
a few thousand years ago: "You cannot conceive of the many without the
one."
Metaphysically we can run from logic, but we can't hide from it if we want
be taken seriously. Only artistically can we escape from logic's
restraints.
Hi Platt, Ham and all,
joe: everything in the encyclopedia is enclosed in a moral hierarchy. Is
this my awareness of logic? As an individual sentient I can be an illogical,
immoral artist creating from an acceptance of DQ. Is this how I escape from
logic's restraints?
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>; <owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: MD The individual in the MOQ
> Hi Ham,
>
> On the one hand, you would have us ignore logic as a "distraction to
> understanding.":
>
> > At the risk of violating the rules here, may I suggest that chasing
around
> > to find a logic that "permits" one conclusion over another is not
helpful
> > when the goal is simply to explain a concept and its meaning. Logic
does
> > not apply to undifferentiated Quality or Essence, anyway, and its use to
> > validate (or invalidate) a metaphysical scenario is a distraction to
> > understanding.
>
> On the other hand, you would have us buy Jasper's view:
>
> > I much
> > prefer Karl Jaspers' insight.. Jaspers writes with great clarity (even
read
> > in translation), and his discussion of "The Comprehensive" has
application
> > to both of the metaphysics in question. The following is from chapter 3
of
> > his small volume "Way to Wisdom".
> >
> > "What is the meaning of this ever-present subject-object dichotomy? It
can
> > only mean that being as a whole is neither subject nor object but must
be
> > the Comprehensive, which is manifested in this dichotomy.
>
> Logically, there must be one for there to be a dichotomy. Thus, Jasper's
> "Comprehensive" is a logical necessity. I think it was Plato who observed
> a few thousand years ago: "You cannot conceive of the many without the
> one."
>
> Metaphysically we can run from logic, but we can't hide from it if we want
> be taken seriously. Only artistically can we escape from logic's
> restraints.
>
> Platt
>
>
>
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