Re: MD The individual in the MOQ

From: hampday@earthlink.net
Date: Thu Aug 26 2004 - 19:52:06 BST

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    Ham Priday to Joseph Maurer, Platt Holden, Paul Turner
    Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:50 PM
    Subject: Re: MD The individual in the MOQ

    > On 26 August 2004 8:04 AM Platt writes to Ham:
    >
    > Platt: Logically, there must be one for there to be a dichotomy. Thus,
    > Jasper's
    > "Comprehensive" is a logical necessity. I think it was Plato who observed
    > a few thousand years ago: "You cannot conceive of the many without the
    > one."

     I.doubt that Plato could conceive of the One, although he did conceive of
    its possibility. Many people would deny the One that Plato idealized; they
    would say that this is pantheism, and that all we're talking about is the
    "whole of physical reality". My problem with "comprehensive" is that it
    seems to suggest precisely that. Quality, on the other hand, doesn't
    suggest anything like that. So, with apologies to Mr Pirsig, I'll stick
    with Essence. Anyway, I'm glad it's a logical conception!

    Joseph said:
    > Everything in the encyclopedia is enclosed in a moral hierarchy. Is
    > this my awareness of logic? As an individual sentient I can be an
    illogical,
    > immoral artist creating from an acceptance of DQ. Is this how I escape
    from
    > logic's restraints?

    Maybe artistic creation is the alternative, Joseph. However, I know
    something about the construction of music, and it relies pretty heavily on
    rules of harmony and counterpoint that may be considered a form of logic. I
    suspect that the visual arts come with their own set of rules.

    Incidentally, I'm not trying to evade logic, and I do appreciate the
    analysis you all are offering. There is a time, however,
    (especially at the outset of an exposition) when the author should be
    permitted to decribe his or her concept in descriptive terms -- much as
    Pirsig has done in his novels.(-; Once we get the total picture we can
    scrutinize it logically and assess its merits.

    Essentially yours,
    Ham

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