Re: MD The future of the MOQ

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Date: Thu Aug 26 2004 - 16:18:31 BST

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    'morning David,

    You certainly got the focus
    tuned to 'extra sharp' on that one.
    I fear there is too much true in
    your sentence about much of our
    'scientific culture' and education
    systems. Political agendas are
    almost completely static...

    There is an interesting group you
    might look at for restoring the faith
    in a possibly bright future for
    science. There are some fairly
    free thoughts floating around.

    http://www.edge.org/

    I have found some of the play of
    ideas fascinating. Let me know
    what you think.

    thanks--mel

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Morey" < >
    To: < >
    Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:31 PM
    Subject: Re: MD The future of the MOQ

    > One key thing seems to be that
    > science is very good at modelling SQ
    > but more often these days it is coming
    > up against DQ.
    >
    > DM
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "ml" < >
    > To: < >
    > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 11:40 PM
    > Subject: Re: MD The future of the MOQ
    >
    >
    > > MoQ should have an intellectual future
    > > or maybe a post-intellectual future.
    > > To get there we may need to concentrate
    > > on what level is most important to explore
    > > and how to frame the future.
    > >
    > > We speak an SOM structured language
    > > which implicitly reduces our thinking, if
    > > not always our discussion to something
    > > SOM-ish.
    > >
    > > Counting up the subject matter in this
    > > discussion, it will be overwhelmingly
    > > about social matter. It is what is
    > > important to individuals at times, but
    > > I would question whether the social
    > > is our best focus for the long view.
    > >
    > > To my perception only a few of the
    > > things written, (including my own)
    > > have had the ring of MoQ novelty or
    > > felt like it extended the MoQ itself.
    > >
    > > That might be why RMP has written
    > > so many books so quickly ;-)
    > >
    > > Tough going to get along the road...
    > >
    > > thanks--mel
    > >
    > >
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "David Morey" < >
    > > To: < >
    > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:23 PM
    > > Subject: Re: MD The future of the MOQ
    > >
    > >
    > > > Hi all
    > > >
    > > > I ask, has the MOQ got an intellectual future?
    > > >
    > > > I see some possible trends that approach the MOQ:
    > > > Wilber & self-help & new-age holism, Roy Bhaskar's
    > > > stratified being & philosophy of freedom, certain ideas
    > > > in the new physics that are anti-determinist
    > > > & anti-reductionist, the anti-essentialism
    > > > of post-modernism, other trends & possibilities.
    > > > The seeking of something after the death of god.
    > > > Charles Taylor's 'Sources of the Self' and other
    > > > calls to re-examine the sources of values.
    > > >
    > > > What do others see/hope for?
    > > >
    > > > regards
    > > > David M
    > > >
    > > >
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